CA smog law?

[CL2000]

I have been trying to find info on the new law. I havent found much anyone have details?

I copied this from another site

I just called and spoke to the head of the BAR for the diesel emission standard for the state of California smog requirements. After a very lengthy conversation with him, I found that, only diesels pre-1997 are exempt.

ANY DIESEL VEHICLE WITH A WEIGHT RATING OF 14,000 lbs or less will have to be smogged. That's correct 14,000 lbs.

He stated that after they put their heads together they realized they could accomodate that weight rating for the inspections, ironically enough these are probably the same people who cant seem to fix the state's budget thats been in disarray for the last 8 months.

He stated the check will consist of a visual check to make sure all smog equipment is still on there, (including the cat) that there are no "illegal modifications" made (he wasn't able to define that statement when asked, and a visual test for smoke. That means that smog technician (Ali-baba) will start the vehicle and go stare at your tailpipe to determine whether he sees smoke. When I asked him, "if a dispute between the tech and the vehicle owner should arise, of whether there is visible smoke or not, what happens then?" He said thats a good question. I asked him what about people who run bio-diesel or oil. He stated that the legal department was looking into that right now and he couldnt answer because he didn't know if they were going to allow certain fuels or not.

All in all, he just spewed the same political jargon the politicains have been stating. He said there is a website that the state lists of California legal mod parts (exhausts, intakes, tuners, etc...) i will be going to it shortly.

One of the last things he said was that I was only the second diesel owner to have called him about this yet, and that everyone has been very quiet and complicit about the whole thing. I would love if every diesel owner in this state called his office and told him what they thought of their new laws and restrictions. They need to be hasselled and aggravated just as much as we will be in 2010. Please call him, I'll list his number below. thanks.

California Dielel Project Lead: Greg Coburn (916) 255-2979 .

California Website for legal mods: ARB.ca.gov

[Diesel 73]

I will call tomorrow, I am not about to have this bull sh*t. I might actually pass a smog test cause I dont blow coal. but most of you would probably be screwed.

[CL2000]

Ask about GVW DMV's site say vehicles with gvw of less than 8501 will need the check, but other sites say 14000 gvw.

[Diesel 73]

I am going to ask him everything that I can think of, when I call him I am going to have him on a conference call with my father listening (who just happens to be a lawyer). maybe he will find a loop hole. I am going to get as much info as I can, I will post tomorrow details of the conversation.

any other requests of questions they want asked?

[Erik@LeftCoastDiesel]

I have the BAR info on my desk.  GVW below 14k will have an OBDII scan (no codes=OK) a visual inspection of the vehicle to see that all original smog equip is in place and a smoke test.  No equipment will be used for the smoke test, and no dyno.  Just a "mash the pedal and see how much it makes" test.  This will be completely subjective.  They also point out in the specs that they know that over 50% of the CA diesels are already modified.
I beleive this is a revenue generating deal for them, more than anything else.  BUT, you are gonna want your cat in place and will want to minimize the obvious stuff under the hood.

[Diesel 73]

Erik pretty much has it right. I just got off the phone with him. he emailed me a draft of the BAR recs. its in PDF so I will see if I can put it up on here. he said that they have open meetings and has been suprised at the little turn out from Diesel owners. I guess there were two meetings yesterday. it is a revenue generating outcome, he wouldnt desclose why they came up with the 1998 year, but he said it made logical sence to use that year, I asked him why not start with the 2007's cause thats when they forced the ultra low sulfur diesel. he said it was the same reason. I am guessing money. anyway I will see if I can get the draft up later.

[pstlpete]

Their was a huge article in the contra costa times about a month back that said anything over a 1 ton aka 450, 4500 and bigger....hmmm? When more than half of the peoplpe driving diesels dont pass they will have to figure something out......this is the same concept as the grandfather claused gas vehicles. How can you expect something to pass smog when it was not required at the time of production?

[82ndsnpr]

why i keep my truck reg in utah man cali is for the birds on the smog bs they want to do

[barbastard]

When are they thinking of implementing this?

I too had heard several other times that it was only vehicles with GVW of 8501lbs or less would need to be smogged. Has it been 100% sure confirmed that it's 14000 and less?

My truck was a "HO" version and as such was not originally sold in CA and it didn't come with a cat from the factory. I'm assuming that I wouldn't be expected to run one now?

I agree with the sentiments above...how they could expect any vehicle (diesel or gas) to pass any sort of "emissions" test if it wasn't originally designed with that test in mind is pretty ridiculous.

[231jasons]

you cant be made to add on OEM equipment.

[Diesel 73]

When are they thinking of implementing this?

I too had heard several other times that it was only vehicles with GVW of 8501lbs or less would need to be smogged. Has it been 100% sure confirmed that it's 14000 and less?

My truck was a "HO" version and as such was not originally sold in CA and it didn't come with a cat from the factory. I'm assuming that I wouldn't be expected to run one now?

I agree with the sentiments above...how they could expect any vehicle (diesel or gas) to pass any sort of "emissions" test if it wasn't originally designed with that test in mind is pretty ridiculous.

it is expected to take effect Jan 2010, the bill and draft of the processes says 14000lbs so I would go off that one.

[1snotrocket]

here some info.
http://www.bar.ca.gov/80_BARResources/05_Legislative/RegulatoryActions/DieselTestProceduresVer5.pdf

[felk762]

This whole situation is such a load I don't even know where to start, has anyone contacted any aftermarket companies to see what they're doing to get they're products "legal"?

[RPM Motorsports]

Bastards don't even care that the aftermarket parts on our trucks give us better MPG= less fuel burned= less fuel the tankers need to consume to deliver fuel to the station's=less total emissions overall. Anybody got a CARB sticker for the twins laying around:eek:

[1snotrocket]

from what i have heard the aftermarket has been trying to push there products threw the air resource baoard. but the carb is so back logged it's taking for ever to get carb e.o. #